I think it's important to have a good hard failure when you're young... I learned a lot from that. Because it makes you kind of aware of what can happen to you. Because of it, I've never had any fear in my whole life when we've been near collapse and so on. I've never been afraid.
我认为年轻时经历一次严重的失败很重要……我从中学到了很多。因为它让你意识到可能会发生在你身上的事情。因此，在我的一生中，当我们濒临崩溃时，我从未感到害怕。我从不害怕。
可持续捕捞不是一种选择，如果我们想保护海洋生态系统，这是唯一的前进方向。
我不是一个完美的人，但我每天都在努力变得更好。